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An Idea Whose Time Has Come

Posted on Jan 29th, 2008 by Grey : Integral Ideator (I-I) Grey
Not long ago, Chris posted a call for discussion ideas in which he said [emphasis mine]:

Chris: I'm personally hoping for an improvement on the idea of discussions overall, something more innovative and organic. I believe if we're to succeed in our mission of collecting our wisdom and expertise and love and hope for the purpose of achieving higher causes, we certainly need a better tool than a discussion board.

That part, “collecting our wisdom and expertise”, made me think about sites like Wikipedia and Google’s “Knols” project and about how cool it would be for Gaia to have some sort of collaborative (and also not) system for creating “knowledge articles” à la Wikipedia or Knols. But this isn’t my innovative idea.

Let’s just pretend for a minute that Gaia already has a “knowledge article” system in place (and in a sense there is, since you can label a blog post to be an article, but this is too limited of an approach to article creation). What we have, then, are three different modes of “community communication” (i.e. one-to-many or many-to-many, so not counting one-to-one communication like PMs and IMs) and sources of knowledge within Gaia: pods, blogs, and articles.

Each of these systems has its own particular strengths, but there are a few general problems or deficiencies, as well. One of the problems in that discussion on any given topic in all of these modes tends to be very linear, stretching down a web page as far as the participants can bear and then eventually sort of just petering out without really accomplishing anything, other than building a sense of community. Not that building a sense of community isn’t wonderful, but it’s only half of what Gaia is supposed to be about, that is “being the change”. We’ve got tons of being, but not a whole lot of change. Communion, but not much agency.

The other problem is that these three modes are very much separate, and even the various conversations within each mode are separate and fragmented. So you often end up with several discussions on the same topic taking place all around Gaia, but with no easy way to bring all the various views and ideas together into “new knowledge”. The various bits are all “out there”, but nothing much is being done with them.

Now, to a certain extent, simply adding a “Gaia wiki” would already be an improvement, because there would be a way for people to work together on filing away our collective knowledge in a manner that’s more accessible to everyone. But a weakness in the standard wiki model is that one person, on their own, needs to write a decent first draft on a given topic, and then there has to be enough interest and attention paid to the article to get it fleshed out and properly edited and updated.

So what we need is something that will: (1) bridge the gap between all of the fragmented discussion on a particular topic; (2) not be limited by a linear mode of conversation; and (3) bring in more change to the “being the change” equation.

Enter “discussion clouds”, or “Grey Clouds” as I like to call them! You can shorten that to “gClouds” and pretend that it stands for “Gaia Clouds” if you want, but they’ll always be “Grey Clouds” to me. ;-)

What is a “cloud”? Imagine that you’ve been reading a couple of blogs (and related comments) and participating in a pod thread or two on a certain topic, and you get an idea for a “knowledge article” or any other sort of project based on these discussions (could even be simply to resolve a conflict or achieve greater clarity or consensus on the topic). Just create a cloud.

I envision that somewhere on any blog or pod page there would be a “Create a cloud” button. When you click on this button, you would go to a page where you can better define your cloud. This would mean linking any other pod threads, blog posts or articles that you know of that are directly relevant to the cloud and, and this is important, setting a “purpose” for the cloud in a few words (so that it could be displayed across the top of every cloud-view page). That’s the change part, and it also helps distinguish clouds from pods in that a cloud would disperse (i.e. be locked to further discussion) once its purpose had been fulfilled. Discussion could continue in the various pods or blogs that were linked to the cloud, of course, but discussion within that cloud would end when the goal is reached.  As part of the setup process, you would also kick off discussion within the cloud.

An important part of this would be some sort of “cloud map”, like a mind map, that would show all the interconnections between the various branches of the cloud discussion (and the linked discussions). This would help a cloud participant to navigate within the cloud and to have a global view of what’s going on in there. The branching and interconnections could actually get quite complex, again like a mind map, and the cloud map would help you to visualize these interrelationships and see how consensus could be achieved by integrating all of the various reasoned viewpoints. I would even envision that you could draw in your own connecting lines, annotations, color coding, and that sort of thing to the cloud map to help you keep track of everything. Some of these markups could be global for the whole cloud to see, and others could be personal for an individual cloud participant.

Whenever you’re “in” a cloud, you would also see, down one side of the page maybe, lists of the linked or related pod threads, blog posts or articles and could link related stuff (even external web items) as the cloud discussion progressed. Tagging would be an important part of finding related knowledge to link to the cloud, but I’d also like to see topic categories à la BigThink.com to help zero in on related discussions.

And yes, why not also link other clouds to your cloud and create a “perfect storm” of change?

There’s another aspect of Gaia that I haven’t mentioned and which is more about agency and change, and that’s gPro. So you could also link in gPro products and services that could help out in achieving the cloud’s purpose.

I would imagine that pretty much any cloud could end with the writing of some sort of article or report in order to capture the new knowledge that came out of the cloud (even if just to summarize what happened in the cloud for others to learn from), so this is why some system of collecting, creating and indexing Gaia knowledge articles is essential for clouds to work effectively.

Also, I don’t think that clouds should replace pods, because the two modes have very different functions. Clouds are very much more about agency and change, while pods are almost solely about communion and being. But there may very well be ideas here that could be applied to pods to change the way they work. Like “thread maps” to allow more complex discussions to take place without getting bogged down in an unmanageably long, linear thread. In fact, the whole “thread” metaphor might be replaced. Think of pod “clouds” as those pretty white fluffy or wispy clouds that look beautiful but don’t really “do” anything (and wouldn’t have to ever “disperse”), and the clouds I’ve described above would be the rain clouds (which are, of course, “grey”) that redistribute water for plants and animals to benefit from.

So that’s my “killer app” that I think would truly raise the bar on the Gaia community’s ability to “be the change”. Whaddaya think?

With love,
Grey
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maxie : Zaadster
about 13 hours later
maxie said

 

Grey,  I really like this idea.  Simple and elegant … just brilliant!  Piece-by-piece construction would suit it .  Prototype the organization first, get it up and running and then stack the add-ons and linkage as we beta up to cloud. 

Btw, I have the perfect geometry for the cloud form (heh heh) and you know I'm not kiddin'.

I know that it doesn't look too “cloud” like, but “fractally-” speaking, it could be the geometric “seed” that allows the cloud to form around it, right?  Clouds formed by seeds.  That's the way it actually happens, imo.

The fractal seed unit would carry the intention/purpose, communion, timeline, production, and deliverables as conceived/presented by the cloud's founder(s.)

Imagine this base “organization” as set upon and within a tetrahedron (T.)  Each of the four points (vertices) of the T could be people, or positions of responsibility/reference (por).  Three por make up a plane of activity such as communion, timeline, and so on.  These four planes of “activity” are then defined by the interactions between the 3 por that define the plane. The point within the T would be the governing center where the purpose, intention, and overall accountability would be maintained.

After performing the inaugural start-up phase, the base unit could then begin to build its interactive tetrahedral appendices.   Fully formed, there are nine units of responsibility/ accountability once the vertex for each of the  appendices is established as the entire geometry of the  fractal is formed to its operational conclusion.

http://www.heartcoherence.com/stellatedtetra/

I really, really like the “impermanent” sense of it - that it is designed to live-and-die like a cell.  That way the system itself can evolve and we all take advantage of what is being learned collectively as the big shot software genies struggle to keep up with us “users.”

Now my head is really spinning trying to image these interactions.  Must make model … must make model …


Fucking briliant Grey!

Yer pal,

Michael

Grey : Integral Ideator (I-I)
about 23 hours later
Grey said

Hey Michael,

Thanks! And I'm finally starting to appreciate the beauty of your stellated tetrahedron and how it can be used as a symbol in Integral models.

It's funny, because all the other times you've talked about it my brain has just sort of switched off and hasn't really allowed anything to sink in. Probably some shadow issues there related to when I had to move during high school, and my new school only went as far as trig and didn't offer calculus (so I was the only junior in my trig class at the new school, and all the seniors came to me for help in class). I'd always been really good at math and enjoyed it a lot, but after that I sort of gave up on it….

Now I'm synchronistically reading a SF novel (coalescent by Stephen Baxter) in which a mysterious tetrahedron has been discovered in the Kuiper belt. I've just started the book, so I don't know what it's all about yet, but it's kinda weird timing, huh?

So yeah, I'll be turning the shape around in my mind now and we'll see what comes up!

Much love,
Grey

Grey : Integral Ideator (I-I)
1 day later
Grey said

Michael,

Could you give a practical example of how this might work?  Filling in all the PORs with some hypotheticals. And by 9 units of accountability, do you mean the 8 points on the stellated T plus the area within it?

Cheers,
Grey

maxie : Zaadster
1 day later
maxie said

Give me a couple of days on the model and I will see if I can come up with a “starter” outline that would line up job description and “location” on the T.   And yes to the units of accountability being nine with 4 primary and 4 secondary units at the vertices and 1 in the center.  The “stellations,” or “outreach-interactors,”  could be:  1) Research, Collation, and Communion, 2) Design, prototyping, and Production, 3) Business, Accountancy and Legal, 4) Sales, Marketing and/or Promulgation.

mmmmm … .I can already see some sweet linkages forming …

The central point, imo, is the agreement forged by the founders of the cloud.  It is conceived, vetted, agreed to and refreshed as necessary by all parties to the purpose and intention.  If the agreement is held at center, it does not require a chaperone as it is stewarded collectively by the originator(s.)  The other 4 responsibility units must be accounted for by “people” while realizing that one person might take responsibility for more than one “unit.”

The process could start with an intention to agree, a “memorandum of understanding” between the originators that outlined the intention and purpose that they were going to engage.  The “agreement” would follow the concept development process and once the responsibility sets and developed intention/purpose/goals/Timeline/Deliverables were vetted and secure,  “signing” would complete the initiation process.  Then the cloud fractal would inaugurate, and get down to the business of building or “acquiring” the appendices. 

It may, in time, be unnecessary to build all of the appendices as others may develop specific single-T capabilities they could replicate or “apply” as appendices for other clouds.

I know that this may sound kind of “out there,” but I keep being more strongly called to dive into it.  I don't know crap about programming, but there might be something in the coordination architecture of this geometry that could inspire the “hook-up” algorythms.

More soon off the model.  I love building those things.

I appreciate this Grey, and just love that its you that pulled this out of the ether.  Nothing like “necessity” as the driver of invention, eh, Mr. Cultivator?  (heh heh)  Serendipity arises!

best,
m

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